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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (1 of 26), Read 147 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Wednesday, May 19, 1999 09:13 AM |
Daniel Felps, of Texarkana, Texas, writes: "There has to be a word for the feeling you get when you know you have to sneeze, but you can't."
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (2 of 26), Read 139 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Wednesday, May 19, 1999 10:14 AM |
catchan
It's sort of like "gotcha", but it means catching something before it has a chance to happen.
The verb form is similar but without the n on the end.
You can for example; catcha falling star and put it in your pocket, thus stopping it before it hits the ground or burns up in the atmosphere.
Note also that the word sounds similar to cachoo, making it close to something I can't really remember what it's called or even spell what I think it's called -- onomonopia? --- anyway -- a word intended to sound like something -- examples, "chirp" and "bark".
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (3 of 26), Read 139 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:23 AM |
Roger,
boy, that sounds like a catchascatchcan analysis. catcha falling star?? putit in
yer pocket.
by the way, the naming of a thing by vocal
imitatation of the sound associated with it
is onomatopoeia.... why isn't it spelled the way it sounds?!
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (4 of 26), Read 138 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:28 AM |
I just have to play devil's advocate here. "catchascatchcan analysis"???? probably not.
BTW: Did you see the movie?
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (5 of 26), Read 137 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:07 PM |
okay, continuing in our "dualing" devil roles, which movie? The Devil? The Devils?
The Devil's Advocate? Duel?? Catch? Cha-Cha?? Cache? let's see... does that catchme up with question marks???
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (6 of 26), Read 136 times |
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| Date: | Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:12 PM |
I forget, did you say coocoocachoo?
There was a movie entitled; Devil's Advocate or The Devil's Advocate. It was about a lawyer who worked for the devil and eventually replaced him. Interesting special effects.
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (7 of 26), Read 121 times |
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| Date: | Thursday, May 20, 1999 06:53 PM |
This may be too general, but used in context, "nasal tickle" would work. I was hoping to find a medical term, but came up empty.
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (8 of 26), Read 120 times |
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| Date: | Friday, May 21, 1999 03:45 AM |
.... but came up empty.
That reminds me of someone trying to start a car when it's out of gas. You know, it goes errreeeerrrrrreere but doesn't start. Same thing if it's too cold.
If there's a word for that, it would probably be a good hint for the word we're looking for.
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (9 of 26), Read 111 times |
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| Date: | Friday, May 21, 1999 02:57 PM |
I am wondering why no one has mentioned 'ahhhh tchoo' at this point. Why do people say that word when they sneeze? Why is it called a sneeze and not an ahhh tchoo or why don't we say sneeze when we are sneezing? Maybe a sneeze stopped short should be called and ahhht... or a tchoo.
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (10 of 26), Read 103 times |
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| Date: | Saturday, May 22, 1999 11:20 PM |
If you felt like you were going to sneeze, you would be feeling sneezy. We could call the feeling sneeziness. If you couldn't sneeze you would be experiencing sneezelessness. Either way, God bless you.
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (11 of 26), Read 51 times |
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| Date: | Monday, June 07, 1999 10:51 PM |
"Feeling sneezy" is pretty good, but it still takes two words to describe the sensation. I suggest "snizzle", combining "sneeze" and "sizzle".
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (12 of 26), Read 90 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Monday, May 24, 1999 04:50 PM |
Don't stifle yourself Edith, it's hard on your face
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (13 of 26), Read 81 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Tuesday, May 25, 1999 04:47 PM |
Speaking of Kleenex, there should be a word for trade names that become a generally used expression for a product (Kleenex, Kool-Aid, Q-tip etc.).
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (14 of 26), Read 78 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Wednesday, May 26, 1999 07:50 PM |
On 5/25/99 4:47:52 PM, Terry Stover wrote:
>Speaking of Kleenex, there should be a word >or trade names that become a generally used >expression for a product (Kleenex, Kool-Aid, Q-tip etc.).
it was suggested in an earlier thread that business law has a word for this: generification
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (15 of 26), Read 49 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Monday, June 07, 1999 10:53 PM |
"Generification" describes the process, not the brands. How about "brandle"? "Brand" and "handle". Not too good...
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| Topic: | 7) Pass the Kleenex (16 of 26), Read 49 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:04 AM |
On 6/7/99 10:53:29 PM, Karl Warren wrote:
>"Generification" describes the
>process, not the brands.
well, obviously, by back-formation, the word would be generific.
8-)
today's wwftd is...
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| Topic: | Read me first. (17 of 26), Read 67 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:12 AM |
There is a little known story behind the word we're looking for. You have to understand how languages develop through time and the influence of different language systems.
The word we're looking for developed differently in isolation in two different areas of the world and then came together as the world became smaller (so to speak).
In one region, people coupled the sound together with something they saw displayed when a person held back a sneeze. They noticed that when someone did so, their cheeks would bulge forming the shape of a dome.
Based on that observation, the myth eventually arose that sneezing is how arches are formed. A worker is placed under a stone wall and caused to sneeze. The story was especially funny when the person telling it said "arch" at the end as though sneezing, or almost sneezing with the sound muffled by a pile of stones on their face. Note that "arch" is a short form of "archoo", making it a perfect word for a sneeze that doesn't quite come.
There are many words whose origin goes back to how something sounds. The beginning of the history of the development of a word in another region was simply that people noticed;
aaahhh .... aaaAAAHH .... AAAAAH!
It was shortened at times for the little ones, and the effect became known as an ah no.
But people would only say ah no if they was going through the experience themselves. People noticing an "aaahhh ..." from someone pronounced it as, oh no.
If you're familiar with Germanic languages, you know that many compound words have been formed by putting two words together in reverse order; such in the Swedish word for reverse. (You go "back to" baka till -- "reverse" tillbaka)
Thus, the oh no is the root of the name Noah, which was actually thought to be quite complimentary by people in a subculture who took it to mean "no aaahh" by which they meant a clear headed or clear thinking person.
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| Topic: | Punchline -- Don't read me first. (18 of 26), Read 55 times |
| Conf: | Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:57 AM |
And when these cultures came together, the held back sneeze became known as (don't hit me) Noah's arch.
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| Topic: | Punchlines from Dad (19 of 26), Read 49 times |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:22 PM |
On 6/8/99 11:57:25 AM, Roger Gay wrote:
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>And when the two cultures met,
>the held back sneeze became
>known as (don't hit me) Noah's
>arch.
*PUNCH*
C'mon man. You can do better than this.
My Dad would've cracked up ... while everyone else groaned.
Verily, there's a new one for you Babs - 'dad' as an adective, used to describe instances of well-meaning but not-quite-onto-it and a little naff nouns and/ or verbs. Eg Dad-jokes (puns that are as subtle as the Great Wall of China, and just as visible from a great distance), Dad-rock (Oasis, the Stones, Hootie ...), Dad-style (Birkenstocks, comfortable sweaters) ... the list goes on.
A loving, yet cheeky testimony to those that sired us and then forgot what being young was like.
8-)
Mitch
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| Topic: | Punchlines from Dad (20 of 26), Read 51 times |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:29 PM |
Mitch, Mitch, Mitch!
You'd drop a rock on the man that bred you.
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| Topic: | Punchlines from Dad (21 of 26), Read 49 times |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:45 PM |
Maaaaaate.
Hey, I love my dad. I'm closer to him than any other human on this planet - we are more like best friends than father/ son.
So I guess I can't hate you that much, cos in a way, you're a bit like him. You're a Dad!
So it'd only be a very small rock...
and I'd probably miss him and get my foot anyway.
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| Topic: | Punchlines from Dad (22 of 26), Read 51 times |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:50 PM |
OK, well if that's the way you feel, you might want to check out my latest submission to Fathering Magazine if they publish it (which I believe they might). Believe it or not it's a poem for guys like you when you were just a little goober. They keep makin' 'em, you know.
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| Topic: | Punchlines from Dad (23 of 26), Read 51 times |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 01:00 PM |
My 'gooberhood' status hasn't evolved much yet sadly...
but I'm interested about what guys like me are. Care to elaborate?
Complimentary or non?
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| Topic: | Punchlines from Dad (24 of 26), Read 57 times |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 02:08 PM |
I just mean sons of a young age. Yer a guy aren't you. So you must a been a kid sometime in yer life. The poem was written for a 6 year old, and I think every 5-8 year old in the world should hear it.
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| Topic: | PUNchlines (25 of 26), Read 55 times |
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| Date: | Tuesday, June 08, 1999 04:11 PM |
I have long wondered if there was a word for this kind of "shaggy-dog story" but now I have the power of the internet to help find an answer:
(Webster's Collegiate defines a shaggy-dog story as "a long-drawn-out circumstantial story concerning an inconsequential happening that impresses the teller as humorous but the hearer as boring and pointless; also: a similar humorous story whose humor lies in the pointlessness or irrelevance of the punch line")
I found a shaggy-dog story archive which states as follows:
A special version of the shaggy dog story originated in a long-running series in the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction. This was "Through Time and Space with Ferdinand Feghoot". Typically, these would tell a science-fiction story that ended in a PUNchline. Such stories and their imitations became known as feghoots.
today's wwftd is...
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| Topic: | PUNchlines (26 of 26), Read 48 times |
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| Date: | Wednesday, June 09, 1999 07:05 AM |
That's interesting. Those feghoots are actually real words; except I can't find the word feghoot in the on-line dictionary.